We Do Not Care If You Are Black Or White, Rich Or Poor. We Care Only, That We All Obey The Law.

That We Respect The Police Who Maintain It For Us, And Are A Considerate Citizen To All.

Love The Nation In Which You Live And Respect The Flag It Flies. Otherwise, What Have You Come To Do?

Wherever You Are, Seek To Build Peace & Prosperity WORLDWIDE, And Play Your Positive Part.

Do Not Tear Down To Destroy.

“THE END GAME - 2024”

The Collapse of Democracy & Capitalism & 89'000  Children in Council Care.

All sides must speak

Or the nation is freaked

Distorted by power

We raise ourselves lower.

Woke will force it

Make us see fit

Then will torch us

Under the bus.

Is there a war?

Someone is poor

Is there a peace?

Poverty has ceased.

The child will suffer

For there is no buffer

Deserted by you

Your love not true.

The child is the nation

Stops at the station

You forgot to love

No hope from above.

They turn on despair

Into a fare

Of crime and theft

Then left bereft.

Because you gave birth

When there is no mirth

They tossed and turned

Eventually spurned.

England's lost speech

Supposedly freaks

And Masters of power

Yet holding flowers.

There is no privilege

We all under siege

These words of war

At their core.

England is bereft

The English have fled

Or died in the war

Of empty store.

SO WHAT SHALL WE DO.... TO HALT THIS FINANCIAL AND CULTURAL BANKRUPTCY OF BRITAIN?

(and perhaps all democracies)

The Problem Is Political AND Religious AND How We Think.

First and with urgency we must end the immigration and channel boat crossings now, not in 5 years time,  by use of the military, and by an emergency Government of some sort that allows us to suspend international commitments to Asylum, Human Rights, and International rules of the Sea. all of which are conflictive with each other and abused by those who desire to see the UK collapse and even all democracies.. Whether we are immigrant or not, the UK cannot cope with so many people and we will not survive if we do not stop the immigration flow. We will eventually ALL have no homes, no pensions, no NHS, no jobs, no public services (waste collection, water, social services etc), as all the business people (entrepreneurs) will have left the nation. They are the ones who create the jobs, that generate taxes,that pay for these services. These talented people also work very hard and should be valued as much as nurses/doctors as they create the wealth, so that taxes are gathered that pays those nurses and doctors. and other public sector workers, so do not revile them, we need them.. Let us also at least ask what the military would do in this situation as it is our border security at stake, the first basics of government tasks., which they seem to have forgotten or do not know what to do. If there are laws that get in the way of deaaling with this disaster, whether UK, EU or International then we need to change them or renounce them. Also, perhaps all MPs should commit to being "independent", in thought, i.e. vote for what will save the nation, not according to some Labour or other party policies announced, or by instruction of civil servants or failed DEI or Human Rights principles that are hurling us, and the western world, into disaster.   Equal and other "rights" cost the Taxpayer money  and the reason for this pending bankruptcy

Secondly and equally urgent, is the investigation into  the Islamic teachings  AND that of the Christian Church, BOTH of which are in error,  which will be explained further  on this website and are  part explained and  illustrated in  www.ACertainMyth.com (oR iS iT tRUE), We must discuss this issue of belief WORLDWIDE, because religion has caused, and is causing, danger to the world and every citizen on the street,  even children in schools and small groups, be it in  the UK, Gaza , EU. USA, Russia etc. It is time to face it and   sort it out,  but by discussion, not  by war, or civil  war, or terrorist acts, or independent Islamic religious  knife attacks. These are all  regressive "thinking" and action. We all might feel that way at some point, but we have to control such actions in a civilized society, for that is what being civilized means, this is what democracy and deeper "thinking" is  about. As Churchill said, "jaw, jaw, not war, war". Yet the West and the  end of WW2 agreement with  Russia was not perfect, as it left some nations for 50 years shut behind the Berlin  Wall and  trapped in the "Cold War"  conditions.  Like  all  religions,  is also not perfect, because most are created by a "man", the Jewish religion is somewhat different in that multiple "prophets" spoke (on behalf of God) over centuries saying similar things and providing a very unique history of a people and what God was saying about them and the world and recorded in the Bible. This seemed to have been finalized with Jesus Christ  who was a Prophet  and  also the Son of God, but the Jews do not believe this and may well see his as a "false prophet".   Islam is also not wanting  democracy (rule by the people) but theocracy i.e. ruled by religious leaders and laws,  and where Islam is concerned,   based on such  verses as the following  section below headed "Verses of the Quran",,     Verses of the Old and New Testament to compare follow that, but read both both books and we will know what "rings" true, most do not have time for that, or only read one of the books, which creates division in our "thinking" and society and nations.

Thirdly we need a Petition on the above (to follow on this site shortly). Politics is increasingly failing, Reform appointment of a Muslim Chairman who will be believing the Verses in the Quran section below should be a concern to us, even to Muslims who may not have read the their "book" in full. We must also allow citizens born in the UK a vote of “no confidence” in the current (April 2025) Government in order that elections are called this year, and/or an emergency Government is voluntarily established by Labour where ALL MPs can veto, or are allowed to analyze, suggest alternative policies to a greater degree, i.e. the MPs are not subject to the "whip", so they are to free vote according to conscience, and not blindly following the Party Policy, which they may eventually see is leading the nation to disaster. The knowledge of this imminent disaster caused BY DEI, Human Rights and Asylum laws should also be explained clearly by the BBC and not hidden by their own woke/DEI agenda of their staff pushing it as a positive policy when it is bankrupting us and putting the incompetent in positions of power by "protected characteristics" or race and religion, as per or the 2010 Equality Act. The BBC are required to provide unbiased reporting, if they cannot do this with the current staff, then let the New Culture Forum (www.newcultureforum.org.uk) present the alternative thinking to DEI, BLM and multiple issues on the BBC Radio 4 Channel. This is will encourage critical thinking, i.e. to bring in alternative views to DEI etc so as to avoid a "group think" and brainwashing of society. As is currently happening due to the BBC past history, but now defunct trustworthiness. If the taxpayer goes bankrupt there will be no jobs for BBC staff either. The “experiment of DEI, Asylum, Human Rights, Gender Recognition, has failed, and is causing democracies to fail, and in many aspects are promoting outright foolishness and is a danger to our children and a stable progressive society.

As regards the repeated and "feared" accusation of racism that cripples society and even the Police and Military. We only experience racism if we are in someone else’s nation, particularly if we arrive uninvited and cost the host nation money, or occupy their limited social housing, or increase the NHS queues and costs, or we have children we cannot afford or feed. Then if  we do all that, and others are paying the Taxes to fund these things for us, and we are not,  then there is  justified anger and cries of injustice from the host nation population which many now falsely call racism. Worse, it has been made into law that these injustices cannot be discussed, which means we cannot save ourselves, as we are not allowed to "jaw jaw" to stop disaster.     For the English, Scottish, Welsh, N.Irish, this is our only land, immigrants have access to another land.  Yet its not the immigrants fault, but that of our leaders who have also created a new supposedly progressive, yet bizarre rules for society, calling "men, women, and women, men". So now,  according to the religious ancient rules/writings,  “truth has fallen in the street” and we finally see that the  “emperor has no clothes” and only a child dares call out the “truth” that the King is naked and not wearing invisible garments spun with gold he "thought" he  was.   (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=emperor+has+no+clothes+meaning).

"The Telegraph recently (March 2025) revealed that a toddler—aged just three or four—was suspended from nursery for alleged “abuse against sexual orientation and gender identity”. It seems unimaginable, yet this disturbing incident is symptomatic of a broader crisis facing our society.....Just a generation ago, legislation (‘Section 28’) prohibited schools from promoting LGBT ideology—a stark contrast to the current scenario, where even very young children face suspension for not conforming to it. The Telegraph report confirms this is far from an isolated incident: in 2022–23 alone, 94 primary pupils faced suspension or expulsion for “transphobic or homophobic” behaviour, including children as young as four and five. Helen Joyce from Sex Matters called this development “too crazy to believe” and condemned school leaders for projecting adult beliefs onto very young children." (www.C4M.org.uk  search 3 year old suspended).

As regards Gaza, this is a religious war.

 Also linked to land supposedly given to Israel in the Bible,

It  is also an ancient family war  of 2 half brothers.

Between the descendants of Isaac (the Jews)

and the descendants of Ishmael

(Arabs, Egyptians, loosely all the Muslim nations).

The Bible does speak about this land and all these peoples. Please see section below headed "Verses of the Old and New Testament".  The verse below is also about Gaza, Judah, Jerusalem, Israel. written/spoken some 3000 years ago and written on ancient manuscripts. These lands and peoples are such an insignificant piece of land and numbers of people, yet bizarrely predicted/prophesied  to be the cause of a great war with many nations coming against Israel., as is happening at this moment by the UN and many nations, or at least imposing a peace on Israel, despite a massacre and Gaza still holding hostages, an on going act of war.  How did they get it so right 3000 years ago that Gaza and Israel would play such  a significant part in history on earth in these modern days? Yet if there is a God, and the one that speaks in the verses below is THE God, then he is  not too pleased with those nations and peoples who come against Israel in this manner and breaching their borders. However, we will look further on  this., we just need be aware..., just in case... that this is God speaking, and is  "truth", strange though it might be, as God seems to have planted the nation of Israel into the world to cause make a spectacle of them and to make a point,  that he exists.

Zepheniah 2 : 1-15 Gather yourselves together, yea, gather together, O nation not desired; Before the decree bring forth, before the day pass as the chaff, before the fierce anger of the LORD come upon you, before the day of the LORD'S anger come upon you. Seek ye the LORD, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be ye shall be hid in the day of the LORD'S anger. For Gaza shall be forsaken, and Ashkelon a desolation: they shall drive out Ashdod at the noon day, and Ekron shall be rooted up. Woe unto the inhabitants of the sea coast, the nation of the Cherethites! the word of the LORD is against you; O Canaan, the land of the Philistines (Gaza), I will even destroy thee, that there shall be no inhabitant. And the sea coast shall be dwellings and cottages for shepherds, and folds for flocks. And the coast shall be for the remnant of the house of Judah (the Jews); they shall feed thereupon: in the houses of Ashkelon shall they lie down in the evening: for the LORD their God shall visit them (the Jews), and turn away their captivity. I have heard the reproach of Moab, and the revilings of the children of Ammon, whereby they have reproached my people (the Jews), and magnified themselves against their border. Therefore as I live, saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, Surely Moab shall be as Sodom, and the children of Ammon as Gomorrah, even the breeding of nettles, and saltpits, and a perpetual desolation: the residue of my people (the Jews) shall spoil them, and the remnant of my people shall possess them. This shall they (the nations mentioned) have for their pride, because they have reproached and magnified themselves against the people (the Jews) of the LORD of hosts. The LORD will be terrible unto them: for he will famish all the gods of the earth; and men shall worship him, every one from his place, even all the isles of the heathen (those who believe in no God). Ye Ethiopians also, ye shall be slain by my sword. And he will stretch out his hand against the north, and destroy Assyria; and will make Nineveh (Mosul, Iraq) a desolation, and dry like a wilderness.

Verses In the Quran And what Muslims Think.

The following are some commands/verses from the Qur'an and in the minds of all Muslims on how to live life, for their children, and how to relate to society and each other. It is the way they think about women generally and on those who are not Muslims, and what the end aims of the religion are.  It does also say/imply  to  read and believe the Bible (referred to as the scriptures from  aforetime ), and  it has  Jesus telling  the reader to "obey him". There is a  verse saying there is " no compulsion" in religion, but then other  verses indicating people have no choice but to believe Islam. and   no   choice to leave   Islam,  or they may be "slain".

Surah 5: 52. 0 ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. And whoso among you takes them for friends is indeed one of them. Verily, Allah guides not the unjust people (This verse, as well as being anti semitic and anti Christian is in breach of English law, Muslims are being commanded not to integrate with others and commands racism and religious intolerance).

Surah 4: 35. Men are guardians over women because Allah has made some of them excel others, and because they (men) spend of their wealth. So virtuous women are those who are obedient, and guard the secrets of their husbands with Allah's protection. And as for those on whose part you fear disobedience, admonish them and leave them alone in their beds, and chastise them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Surely, Allah is High, Great. (In some translations "rebellion" is used instead of disobedience, and "scourge" is used instead of chastise, this verse allows/condones men to abuse their wives. We will not stop domestic abuse with this verse condoning/allowing the same),

Surah 8: 39-40 Say to those who disbelieve, if they desist, that which is past will be forgiven them; and if they return thereto, then verily, the example of the former peoples has already gone before them. And fight them until there is no persecution and religion is wholly for Allah. But if they desist, then surely Allah is Watchful of what they do. (This verse implies to those who turn from the Islamic faith, they must be physically fought until all mankind is Muslim)

Surah: 9: 29. Fight those from among the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) who believe not in Allah, nor in the Last Day, nor hold as unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have declared to be unlawful, nor follow the true religion, until they pay the tax with their own hand and acknowledge their subjection. (Muslims are commanded here to fight those who do not follow the command and religion of the Prophet of the Qur'an, and to pay the taxes the Quran demands, by which we assume those unbelievers will then be allowed to live, this is a type mafia protection tax).

Surah 9: 33. He it is Who sent His Messenger with guidance and the religion of truth, that He may make it prevail over every other religion, even though the idolaters (all unbelievers of Islam) may dislike it. (the Islamic faith is to prevail over all other religions, by force if need be).

Surah 9: 38-39 0 ye who believe! what is the matter with you that, when it is said to you, go forth in the way of Allah, you sink heavily towards the earth? Would you be contented with the present life in preference to the Hereafter? But the enjoyment of the present life is but little, as compared with the Hereafter. If you do not go forth to fight, He will punish you with a painful punishment, and will choose in your stead a people other than you, and you shall do Him no harm at all. And Allah has full power over all things. (Muslims are threatened, apparently by God, that if they do not go forward to fight unbelievers, and perhaps lose their life in the process, they will be punished by God and their chance of eternal life with God removed, this is a form of coercion/entrapment as serious believers of any faith fear to lose eternal life, or the hope for it.This is probably one of the key verses that compel all Muslims to die for their faith in acts of terrorism in order to receive immediate eternal life, logic tells us there is no guarantee of this, we should at least investigate the logic of all faiths when it is telling society to believe and act on such words and are protected by Human Rights and equality laws.).

Surah: 4: 90. They wish that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you may become all alike. Take not, therefore, friends from among them, until they emigrate in the way of Allah. And if they tum away, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them; and take no friend nor helper from among them. (If any disbelieve the Quran or Muslim faith unbelievers are to be slain, knives being the modern chosen weapon, Arab unbelievers are to have the same fate unless they change their mind and prove it by migrating for the sake of the faith. With this verse we can see that migration to other nations that we suffer from in Europe is part of the command of the Quran and its faith).

Surah 8 65. O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there be of you twenty steadfast they shall overcome two hundred, and if there be of you a hundred steadfast they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they (the disbelievers) are a folk without intelligence. ( As well as another command for Muslims to fight any who are not believers. This is what each Muslim will be thinking about any that are not Muslim, in this day and age, logically, should any with supposed "intelligence" be believing such words?).

Surah 2: 217- 218. Fighting is ordained for you, though it is repugnant to you; but it may be that you dislike a thing while it is good for you, and it may be that you like a thing while it is bad for you. Allah knows all things, and you know not. They ask thee about fighting in the Sacred Month. Say: 'Fighting therein is a great transgression, but to hinder men from the way of Allah, and to be ungrateful to Him and to hinder men from the Sacred Mosque, and to turn out its people therefrom, is a greater sin with Allah; and persecution is worse than killing.' And they will not cease fighting you until they turn you back from your faith, if they can. And whoso from among you turns back from his faith and dies while he is a disbeliever, it is they whose works shall be vain in this world and the next. These are the inmates of the Fire and therein shall they abide" (If an unbeliever of Islam rejects or does not follow the commands of the Muslim faith, Muslim believers are actively commanded to fight them and kill them, and will lose their own life if they do not do this, as fighting is what they should expect for their life, even though many may not want to fight. Again this verse is a form of entrapment and coercion and gives a command to kill, or else they have failed God. For those brought up from birth with such words, it is not easy as a "believer" in God to turn from it or reject it. Muslims may well be trapped in this belief system, by the emotional beliefs and fears it brings and by the believing Muslim society around them, that may well try and kill them if they reject the faith).

Surah 2: 22-25 0 ye men, worship your Lord Who created you and those who were before you, that you may become righteous; Who made the earth a bed for you, and the heaven a roof, and caused water to come down from the clouds and therewith brought forth fruits for your sustenance. Set not up, therefore, equals to Allah (the Qur'an rejects Jesus as the Son of God, as do most Jews, Muslims accept him as the Messiah only, the Jews not even that), while you know. And if you are in doubt as to what We have sent down to Our servant, then produce a Chapter (Surah) like it, and call upon your helpers beside Allah, if you are truthful. But if you do it not-and never shall you do it-then guard against the Fire, whose fuel is men and stones, which is prepared for the disbelievers. (I have produced a Surah for this challenge, please scroll down to heading The Missing Link -A Certain Riddle About a Tree).

Surah 10: 38 – 39 And this Qur'an is not such as might be devised by any one except Allah. On the contrary, it fulfils that which is before it and is an exposition of the Law of God. There is no doubt about it. It is from the Lord of the worlds. Do they say, 'He has forged it'? Say, 'Bring then a Surah (Chapter) like unto it, and call for help on all you can besides Allah, if you are truthful.' ( I have "brought a Surah", Surah 115 : 1- 18 The Missing Link A Certain Riddle About a Tree" please scroll down to see this)

Surah 4: 83. Will they not, then, meditate upon the Qur'an? Had it been from anyone other than Allah, they would surely have found therein much disagreement. (I have found much disagreement/contradiction in the Quran as have others, yet the Quran says we can bring forth a Surah and to gather the people together to discuss this. I provided such a Surah below and call the elders of Muslims, Christians, Jews to discuss this with myself and others via a TV programme, or You Tube, addressing the key incongruities/contradictions brought to the fore in this website and others).

Surah 3: 42-51 . And when the angels said: O Mary! Lo! Allah hath chosen thee and made thee pure, and hath preferred thee above (all) the women of creation. 43. O Mary! Be obedient to thy Lord, prostrate thyself and bow with those who bow (in worship). 44. This is of the tidings of things hidden. We reveal it unto thee (Mohammad). Thou wast not present with them when they threw their pens (to know) which of them should be the guardian of Mary, nor wast thou present with them when they quarrelled (thereupon). 45. (And remember) when the angels said: O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a word from Him, whose name is the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, illustrious in the world and the Hereafter, and one of those brought near (unto Allah). 46. He will speak unto mankind in his cradle and in his manhood, and he is of the righteous. 16 47. She said: My Lord! How can I have a child when no mortal hath touched me? He said: So (it will be). Allah createth what He will. if He decreeth a thing, He saith unto it only: Be! and it is. 48. And He will teach him the Scripture and wisdom, and the Torah and the Gospel. 49. And will make him a messenger unto the children of Israel, (saying): Lo! I come unto you with a sign from your Lord. Lo! I fashion for you out of clay the likeness of a bird, and I breathe into it and it is a bird, by Allah's leave. I heal him who was born blind, and the leper, and I raise the dead, by Allah's leave. And I announce unto you what ye eat and what ye store up in your houses. Lo! herein verily is a portent for you, if ye are believers. 50. And (I come) confirming that which was before me of the Torah, and to make lawful some of that which was forbidden unto you. I come unto you with a sign from your Lord, so keep your duty to Allah and obey me 51. Lo! Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path. (These verses confirm that Mary was conceived by the spoken word of the Angel and the power and Spirit of God, as does the Biblical version, but then the Quran later denies that Jesus was the Son of God and that he was crucified. The first problem is the Quran is contradicting known biology, the second problem is that it nullifies/cancels the story line of the gospel which the Quran upholds in principal in other verses in the Bible. From the biological viewpoint, when a child is conceived in the womb, the "seed" of the Mother and the Father meet and bring 23 Chromosomes from each parent, so each conception and the "embryo" in the womb then totals 46 Chromosomes, which is the number of Chromosomes in every cell in our body, and which an embryo must have for it to become a child. The child then inherits 50% of the Mothers DNA and 50% from the Father. Mary is the Mother and provides her "seed" and its 23 Chromosomes. As both the Bible and the Quran confirm no man was involved in the conception of Jesus, i.e. she was a virgin, then the male DNA and its 23 Chromosomes must have been miraculously provided by God, by the spoken word of the Angel and Mary's "belief" in those words, and the power and spirit of God, which IS by his "word" spoken. Consequently this makes Jesus the Son of God, as no man was involved, only Gods power and spirit which is his power and word. The Quran in other verses says categorically that Jesus is not the Son of God, yet biological norms say that he has to be the Son of God if conceived in the manner both the Quran and the Bible describes... i.e. Quran says " God says Be and it is"). 

Surah 19: 89 -93. And they say, 'The Gracious God has taken unto Himself a son. Assuredly, you have done a most monstrous thing! The heavens might well-nigh burst thereat, and the earth cleave asunder, and the mountains fall down in pieces, Because they ascribe a son to the Gracious God. Whereas it becomes not the Gracious God to take unto Himself a son. (This verse is contradicting other verses in the Quran, which confirm, albeit in different words, that Jesus was the Son of God as explained above regard to the Chromosomes etc)

Surah 4: 158 -159 And their saying, 'We did kill the Messiah (anointed one), Jesus, son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah;' whereas they slew him not, nor crucified! him, but he was made to appear to them like, one crucified; and those who differ therein are certainly in a state of doubt about it; they have no definite knowledge thereof, but only follow a conjecture; and they did not convert this conjecture into a certainty On the contrary, Allah exalted him to Himself. And Allah is Mighty, Wise. (We have no certainty that the Prophet of the Qur'an saw the Angel Gabriel either, or that these words came from/inspired from the Angel Gabriel as claimed. Hence many of the verses in the Quran are words of war, which give permission to "slay" those who do not follow the "Prophet". To slay and fight is the normal state of mans human desire/character to fight, and for a man to imagine "70 virgins" as a good reward for dying early for his God, it is a desire of the "flesh" the New Testament would say. Men are always fighting each other and making war, world history shows this, we see it in society. Even women do at times, literally or by words and deeds, children certainly do, it is a "survival of the fittest" mode. We can overcome this desire by what we think and believe by the "spirit" which are the "words" in us, by these we choose (or not) to control that emotion to fight or kill. The Prophet of the Quran is giving men permission to fight and kill, and to abuse women as if it it is Gods will, but this is the human "will" of most men, at least those that crave power over others, or are bullies. The Quran encourages Muslims to fight, the New Testament encourages peace, joy, mercy, turning the other cheek, not to do harm to others and to forgive. In these verses also the Qur'an is saying that Jesus was not crucified, which contradicts the Bible which the Quran upholds in other verses. Also, by saying Jesus was not the Son of God, it is removing the key symbolism and storyline of his life and death. This was for the sin of mankind to be removed to be acceptable to God, and is a key part of the symbolism of what Jesus has done for mankind, in order that we can receive "eternal life" or "life after death". The symbolism is connected to the many animal sacrifices in the Old Testament that the Jews were obliged to make until the Temple was destroyed in Jerusalem in 70 AD/CE, and where the Dome of Rock Mosque now stands. It is also connected to the Passover of the Jews and the storyline in Exodus Chapters 1 to 20. I say this so that Muslims can also seek and find this eternal life that is offered to us ALL, without which none of us will find without reading at least the Gospels in the New Testament, or the New Testament in its entirety, as the Spirit of God is IN his words spoken by Jesus Christ in particular).

Surah 5 :172. 0 People of the Book (Torah and/or Gospels) exceed not the limits in your religion, and say not of Allah anything but the truth. Verily, the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was only a Messenger of Allah and a fulfilment of His word which He sent down to Mary, and a mercy from Him. So believe in Allah and His Messengers, and say not 'They are three.' Desist, it will be better for you. Verily, Allah is the only One God. Far is it from His Holiness that He should have a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth. And sufficient is Allah as a Guardian. (This verse is correct when it says we should not call God three i.e. a trinity of persons, Father, Son and Holy Ghost, which is not in the Bible as a "trinity" in that manner. It is a significant and important misinterpretation of the Bible. The Quran is incorrect saying that Jesus was not Gods Son, as per my comment above this, the Quran itself confirms Jesus was the Son of God when it agrees that Mary was miraculously conceived by saying that God said "Be and it is" concerning the conception of Jesus. See also Surah 3:42-51 above).

Surah 3: 85-86 Say, 'We believe in Allah and in that which has been revealed to us, and that which was revealed to Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the Tribes, and that which was given to Moses and Jesus and other Prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him we submit.' And whoso seeks a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the life to come he shall be among the losers. ( This verse is saying that Muslim believers should also honour and believe all the Prophets in the Bible/Torah-Tanakh  and the Prophet of the Quran equally, that there is no difference/distinction between them. It  is true that Jesus was a  Prophet, but he was also the Son of God, as Surah 3:42-51 is confirming but with different words, as explained above. Also the Prophet of the Quran is the said to be the "last" Prophet, who is then contradicting what Jesus said. Elsewhere in the Quran there are verses saying we should read the "scriptures  from aforetime" which is the Bible, and the Bible  in the New Testament confirms that  Jesus is the Son of God. The 20 or so Prophets throughout the Bible are in principle confirming each others prophecies, or adding and expanding on them, even as Jesus does. The Prophet of the Quran is contradicting the theme of all the other Prophets, and cancelling out key commands and teachings of Jesus Christ. The Quran is turning its believers and its society back to living by Jewish style religious laws, which Jesus died to abolish  these. However, the Jews also do not believe Jesus is the Son of God either, or that he is the Messiah (anointed one) whom they still wait for), the  Quran does confirm Jesus is the Messiah (anointed one).   

Verses in the New and Old Testament

What  Christians Think,

However,  many do not read all the  words of the Bible or even the New Testament, which means they do not really follow Its commands and most believe  the Trinity Teaching,  which is an error. We are told it cannot be fully understood and is  a mystery, it is not a mystery but an error that started in  325 AD/CE in the various Councils of Nicaea.   Many  will not know the Bible verses below, as perhaps most Muslims may not have seen the verses above provided from the Quran, but I think the Muslims are more likely to read their book as they are more united in their cause, although they  still have divisions of faith groups, as do the Jews and Christians.  This  means no one knows for sure if any of these books are true.  Christians  are also  taught 2 particular  errors by their leaders,  the first is that  God is 3 (Father Son Holy Ghost), and the second is that Jesus is God as well as the Son.  What I provide  on this site is what I believe is the  correct interpretation of  the Gospel message on these  2 points, backed up bible verse and words of Jesus Christ himself.  The Quran is right in this one thing,  "that God is not three" in any sense.  As mentioned, Christian leaders claim it is a "mystery", the Trinity is not a "mystery" but an error.   Which I explain on this site.  Please also see www.ACertainMyth.com (oR iS iT tRUE?)

Luke 1: 26-38 And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth, To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary. And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women. And when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and cast in her mind what manner of salutation this should be. And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever(Jacob was renamed Israel by God, possibly meaning "God prevails"); and of his kingdom there shall be no end. Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man? And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee (the Holy Ghost is God's own Spirit. not the third person(a) of God that the Christians incorrectly preach as the "Trinity" and call it a mystery, it is not a mystery by an error), and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God. And, behold, thy cousin Elisabeth, she hath also conceived a son in her old age: and this is the sixth month with her, who was called barren. For with God nothing shall be impossible. And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her.

John 1: 1-4 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. (i.e. Genesis 1, God spoke, and the earth and everything in it was created)

John: 1: 14-18 And the Word was made flesh (i.e.Jesus was born) and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me. And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. (God spoke through the Angel Gabriel and Jesus was miraculously conceived by the word and power of God, which is his Spirit, also called the Holy Spirit, Spirit of Truth, Holy Ghost etc etc).

John 6: 27-28 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed. Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent. (Jesus is also called the Son of man, as he was the Son of Mary also, his humanity (DNA)is from Mary, his divinity (DNA) is from God as every child born inherits 50% of their DNA from the father and 50% from the Mother).

John 6:35-50 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst. But I said unto you, That ye also have seen me, and believe not. All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 6: 63 It is the spirit that quickeneth (makes alive); the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

John 17: 5- 19 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word. Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee. For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me. I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine. And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them. And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are. While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition (Judas Iscariot): that the scripture might be fulfilled.And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves. I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth. (Jesus is saying here, that the only "Truth", is all that is written in the Bible, fantastical though it sounds, as its full of miracles, angels, evil spirits, and the history of the Jews, can such things be part of the reality of life? Or have we missed the point and the truth is the life of resurrection. healing , walking on water that Jesus supposedly did?).

Isaiah 9: 6-7 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this. (This is a prophecy/prediction about Jesus Christ arriving the first time as a child, and on then on his return the second time when his Government/kingdom will be set up and he will rule from Jerusalem for a 1000 years with some of those that have believed his message since his birth and message during his adult life, verses implying this "storyline" are throughout the Bible and in Revelation in particular).

Isaiah 2: 1-4  The word that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem. And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it. And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob (renamed Israel. possibly meaning, God Prevails); and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

Genesis 15: 12-18 And when the sun was going down, a deep sleep fell upon Abram; and, lo, an horror of great darkness fell upon him. And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years (enslaved by Pharaoh of Egypt-See Exodus); And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they come out with great substance. And thou shalt go to thy fathers in peace; thou shalt be buried in a good old age. But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full. And it came to pass, that, when the sun went down, and it was dark, behold a smoking furnace, and a burning lamp that passed between those pieces. In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram (God changed Abrams name to Abraham), saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt (Wady el Arish) unto the great river, the river Euphrates:

The Promise made to Abraham For Ishmael and his descendants, likely the Middle Eastern nations, and those following the prophet of the Quran.

Genesis 21:9-13 And Sarah saw the son of Hagar the Egyptian, which she had born unto Abraham, mocking. Wherefore she said unto Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman and her son: for the son(Ishmael) of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, even with Isaac. And the thing was very grievous in Abraham's sight because of his son. And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called. AND ALSO of the son (Ishmael) of the bondwoman (Egyptian Hagar, a slave) will I make a nation, because he is thy seed. 

God promised that Ishmael and his descendants would be blessed also and he went on to conceive 12 sons who are understood to be the Middle Eastern Muslim/Arab nations, even as the Hebrews/Israelite's via Jacob (renamed Israel by God) had 12 sons which became the 12 tribes of Israel of which only Judah (the Jews) remain. It could be said that Ishmael's descendants have been blessed with oil that has made them very rich in these modern days. However, going by what is written in the Bible, Israel was created by God as his chosen nation, to show the world in those days and now, that God does exist and Israel to play a key part in how ALL mankind might come to understand and receive “life after death", for Jews and Gentiles. if we are not a Jew, we are a Gentile. However, it seems we ALL still have an individual decision to make, about who and what we believe about God, and the religion that REALLY WILL/MIGHT bring life after death, but we have to understand how and why,and it seems to be by "words" which are spirit. The words in the Bible are the spirit of God with power, and also bring the "understanding" we need. The words in the Quran imply that this Prophet was the "end" of the message from God, but his words do not seem to be confirming the overall "message" revealed in the Bible by about 20 other Prophets in the bible, but instead contradicting the overall message provided by these Prophets over the centuries, with evidence by the ancient written manuscripts. However, that said, the Jews also do not recognize the New Testament, or that Jesus was the Messiah they waited for, even as they also rejected the Prophet of Quran to be that Messiah or a Prophet of their God. It is a case that Christians and Muslims have sort of supplanted/superseded/replaced the faith of the Jews for their own purposes, the only difference being, that Jesus was a Jew and seemed to fulfill some of the Prophecies of the Old Testament (Torah/Tanakh) of the Jews. Jesus also said "salvation (from death) is of/comes from the Jews". This may give him greater legitimacy that he was a "continuation" of the other 20 or so Prophets in the Old Testament, i.e. the Prophets of the Torah/Tanakh. The 12 disciples of Jesus Christ were all Jews I believe. Christ's Gospel or "storyline" follows on from the Jewish manuscripts of the Old Testament, and brings in something new, to fulfill the Old Covenant and to bring in the New Covenant/Testament, showing us how we might obtain life after death, by belief in Jesus Christ and not by the laws of Moses any more. The Prophet of the Quran has brought these old laws back into belief. The Gospels also explains new concepts of equality, love, mercy, forgiveness and power to heal by prayer. Also how we are in Gods image, and what our spirit IS, and what Gods spirit IS.

Exodus 9: 13-17 And the LORD said unto Moses, Rise up early in the morning, and stand before Pharaoh, and say unto him, Thus saith the LORD God of the Hebrews, Let my people go, that they may serve me. For I will at this time send all my plagues upon thine heart, and upon thy servants, and upon thy people; that thou mayest know that there is none like me in all the earth. For now I will stretch out my hand, that I may smite thee and thy people with pestilence; and thou shalt be cut off from the earth. And in very deed for this cause have I raised thee up, for to shew in thee my power; and that my name may be declared throughout all the earth. As yet exaltest thou thyself against my people, that thou wilt not let them go?

Numbers 21: 6- 9 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died. Therefore the people came to Moses, and said, We have sinned, for we have spoken against the LORD, and against thee; pray unto the LORD, that he take away the serpents from us. And Moses prayed for the people. And the LORD said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live. And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived.

John 3: 12-15 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things? Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness. If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

Colossinans 15: 15-20 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. 1For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 

Image means "likeness" it is not that Jesus is God, or that we humans are "Gods'", although there is reference to that possibility in the Bible, but not in our human earthly state/lifetime.  Christ's Gospel message is that he has made us equal to him as the Son of God, which also makes us equals and "like" God. It is the case that our human spirit is invisible also,  and therefore "like" Gods spirit, and as Gods spirit goes forth by words, so does ours, that thinking, feeling being within us, speaks. And as the spirit of God dwells in us when we read or hear his/Christs words, and believe them, so do our words dwell in others as we speak. Their words in us and  In this manner we dwell in each other and dwell/live in God and Jesus Christ, and they live in us. Yet there are other words that are also "spirit" (because words are spirit it appears), that can lead us astray, words of violence, words to create confusion, doubt about our gender, words of greed for money, food, pornography and drug addiction, jealously, envy, greed, which all begin in our emotions,  and/or mind, both of which bring words  to mind that create pictures in our imagination.  I fully understand the fear of any believer of any faith, who might have a fear  that  if they reject the brainwashing of their  religious group and society, be it Christian, Muslim Jewish, or any other religious group, that they will have nothing to hope for. I  also began to think that there may not be a God  and it IS alarming, however, we have to  have courage to  query the things we have been taught from childhood, or even just reading the books themselves, we can brainwash ourselves.  We have to keep pushing forward until  reliable truth on the matter of God, and a place where there is  "no fear". Many religions and their deviations,   seem to have begun by one man with a new idea, or a  new  interpretation of the first manuscripts of the Jews,, or of the Gospels, even of Islam. This could be said of the Prophet of the Qur'an incorporating both Christianity and the Torah/Tanakh,  or Joseph Smith of the Mormons, even Jesus Chris breaking away from his Jewish faith and changing it. Yet  Jesus Christ came  with unique words and concepts and miraculous events, though not proved in secular  history except by the manuscripts found of the News Testament.   The Jews have  manuscripts found of the Torah/Tanakh (Old Testament in the Bible)  though not always  in provable secular written history. There is proof by their actual presence as a nation and the Jewish people in the world, still celebrating the festivals instructed by God from centuries ago. There seems no remnant of the other 11 tribes of Israel though, so how did the Jews only survive?  The Passover festival for instance, which the Christian Easter Celebration  shadows each year as it is the time when Jesus  was sacrificed/crucified as symbolic of the Lamb  sacrificed in Exodus 12. The Gospel provides very profound words and parables about this life, and about the life after death if we want it. Jesus also warned us  that many "false prophets" would rise up to deceive us, and "by their fruits we would know them". i.e. the  Quran openly teaches war and to take up arms against unbelievers, whereas the Gospels and words of Jesus  preaches peace, mercy, love, kindness, long suffering, equality of men, women and race long before the 2010 Equality Act. However, equality and kindness cannot be enforced by law, as our Governments are trying to do to us  now. Such changes can only come  by having the words of the gospel in our hearts and minds, submitting to the  "truth" of them and to the reality of Jesus Christ as the "Son of God".   it is not easy though, as our natural human tendency is to fight, back,  be angry, offended, jealous etc etc..  An alternative if we do not want to believe in a God, we  could try uniting society whatever race of religion we are by submitting  worldwide to a voluntary Common Courtesy Culture as described below on this  website with that heading, but there is not  option of life after death with that if the words of the Gospel are true. 

Exodus 12: 23-30 (read all of Exodus at some point) For the LORD will pass through to smite the Egyptians; and when he seeth the blood upon the lintel, and on the two side posts, the LORD will pass over the door, and will not suffer the destroyer to come in unto your houses to smite you. And ye shall observe this thing for an ordinance to thee and to thy sons for ever. And it shall come to pass, when ye be come to the land which the LORD will give you, according as he hath promised, that ye shall keep this service. And it shall come to pass, when your children shall say unto you, What mean ye by this service? That ye shall say, It is the sacrifice of the LORD'S passover, who passed over the houses of the children of Israel in Egypt, when he smote the Egyptians, and delivered our houses. And the people bowed the head and worshipped. And the children of Israel went away, and did as the LORD had commanded Moses and Aaron, so did they. And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle. And Pharaoh rose up in the night, he, and all his servants, and all the Egyptians; and there was a great cry in Egypt; for there was not a house where there was not one dead.  (The Christian Easter celebration is always the same time as the Jewish Passover, as Jesus was crucified the same night some millennia ago that the "destroyer" (death)  passed over the Egyptian homes killing all their firstborn sons, yet "passing over" the homes of the Israelite homes leaving their eldest sons unharmed. They had been told to sacrifice an unblemished lamb that night and put its blood on the sides and lintels of their doors, so that the "destroyer" "passed over" their homes when he saw the blood on the doors. This is a another symbolic "storyline" linking the continuation of the Old and New Testament, to indicate how we ALL can forgiven our sins and offered the option of eternal "death"  "passing over" all those who recognize the "  Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world"" (John 1:29) by his shed blood given voluntarily by Jesus Christ, the first and only born Son of God, and the uniqueness of his blood so that we ALL have the option to live after death, Jews and Gentiles.  The following verses below is why seemingly the "blood"is so important. Please also see www.ACertainMyth.com.

Leviticus 17: 10-11  And whatsoever man there be of the house of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn among you, that eateth any manner of blood; I will even set my face against that soul that eateth blood, and will cut him off from among his people. For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul..

However, the Jewish system of sacrifice and rules of clothing, washing, food, no pork meat etc which Islam is trying to bring the law back, and practicing Jews still follow,  has come to an end with the final sacrifice by the crucifixion. Jesus told us to instead to eat the  bread, and drink the wine (see below) as symbolic of his body and blood given for us, but it is in "remembrance" of him and what he did, it is nothing about "transubstantiation" and it literally becoming his body and blood. That is the church and its leaders making the message unnecessarily complicated.

Luke 22: 13- 20 And they went, and found as he had said unto them: and they made ready the passover. And when the hour was come, he sat down, and the twelve apostles with him. And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer: For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God. And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves: For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come. And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me. Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.

Mathew 7:15-23 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.1Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. (by their fruits we will know them i.e. what is the end result of what they/we do and say).

1 John 5 :20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life. (No mention of the Holy Spirit here, only God and is Son to receive eternal life, because God IS that Spirit and that Spirit IS with Jesus and also WITH us when we believe Christs words, which were Gods words, not his own. But Jesus was not God but the Son of God with Gods spirit IN him which resurrected him from death after he was crucified, and will also resurrect those who believe his words in the Gospels, in the New Testament in the Bible.

John 20: 11-18 But Mary stood without at the sepulchre weeping: and as she wept, she stooped down, and looked into the sepulchre, And seeth two angels in white sitting, the one at the head, (angels are in the appearance of men) and the other at the feet, where the body of Jesus had lain. And they say unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? She saith unto them, Because they have taken away my Lord, and I know not where they have laid him. And when she had thus said, she turned herself back, and saw Jesus standing, and knew not that it was Jesus. Jesus saith unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? whom seekest thou? She, supposing him to be the gardener, saith unto him, Sir, if thou have borne him hence, tell me where thou hast laid him, and I will take him away. Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master. Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that she had seen the Lord, and that he had spoken these things unto her.

Contrary to Christian Church teaching Jesus in these words above confirms he is like us and we like him, he has made us the same status with God as he himself has. God is his Father and God as well as ours, he was conceived by the Spirit of God and the only born "Son", but those who believe his words, are sons and daughters by adoption, by belief, and only if we choose to believe what Jesus has said in the Gospels/ New Testament. It is a choice for all mankind, Jews and Gentiles, Muslims, Arabs and Westerners, Asians, Chinese Russians, but we have to make our own individual choice.

WHO  OR WHAT IS THE MESSIAH?

(Anointed One)

Angel Gabriel's Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks: Daniel 9: 20-27

The concept of the Messiah come from The Jewish Tanakh/Old Testament

as does our  most  basic concept of a God, which the Christians

expanded upon  due to the arrival of Jesus Christ, a Jew, and seeming to fulfill the

other Prophecies. Jesus was crucified age 33 i.e. 33 AD/CE

The Prophet of the Quran lived  570 -632 AD/CE.

Daniel 9: 20-27  And whiles I was speaking, and praying, and confessing my sin and the sin of my people Israel, and presenting my supplication before the LORD my God for the holy mountain of my God; Yea, whiles I was speaking in prayer, even the man Gabriel, whom I had seen in the vision at the beginning, being caused to fly swiftly, touched me about the time of the evening oblation. And he informed me, and talked with me, and said, O Daniel, I am now come forth to give thee skill and understanding. At the beginning of thy supplications the commandment came forth, and I am come to shew thee; for thou art greatly beloved: therefore understand the matter, and consider the vision.Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince  shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. (The above set of verse can be understood but I will not explain what little I know here, there are various interpretations, try googling "Daniel 9  70 weeks prophecy". With regard to the existence or notion of the Messiah, this is the most  explicit in the Old Testament, there are  other verses mentioning  a   person coming to rule as appointed by God throughout the Old Testament/Torah-Tanakh. There are also several verses in the New Testament. Search "Messiah" in www.biblehub.com  to read these).

JEWISH UNDERSTANDING

The word Messiah comes from the Hebrew word mashiach, which means ‘anointed one’ or someone who is chosen to rule. Jews believe that the Messiah will come to Earth to bring a time of perfect peace and prosperity called the Messianic Age, .Qualities of the Messiah According to the Torah , the Messiah will be: a male descendant of the Jewish King David, he will have a human birth and human parents,, a perfect teacher of God’s law, a great political leader - inspirational and a good judge, able to rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem, ruler over humanity - but he will rule with kindness, the bringer of peace to the world, able to unite humanity (https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guides/zh9vgdm/revision/4).  Most Jews do not believe Jesus Christ is the Messiah.

Muslim Understanding  Jesus is the central figure of Christianity and is considered by Christians to be the son of God and the Savior of humanity, while Imam Mahdi is an important figure in Shi'ite Islam and is believed to be the final Imam and the promised savior.  Muslims respect and venerate Jesus Christ. They consider him to be one of Almighty God's greatest messengers to humankind. The Qur'aan re-affirms his miraculous birth and his miraculous abilities. Furthermore, his mother Mary is regarded as one of the most pure and exalted women of all creation //. In Islamic eschatology (end time message)  the Mahdi is a messianic figure believed to appear before the Day of Judgment to rid the world of wrongdoing and injustice. He is seen as a descendant of the Prophet Muhammad and will be a just and wise leader who will bring about a period of peace and righteousness. // It's worth noting that each Abrahamic religion believes in a single God and expects the Messiah to emerge as predicted in their scriptures: Christians look forward to Jesus Christ's second coming, whereas Jews look forward to the Messiah, David's son... Muslims, on the other hand, expect the coming of two people at the same time: The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, and the predicted Mahdi. Muslims, according to Ibn al-Qayyim, are waiting for the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, to come down from heaven and the Mahdi, who would bring justice to the earth (Ibn Qayyim, 1999, p. 286).

Christian Understanding:  Christians believe that Jesus is the Messiah, or Anointed One, fulfilling Old Testament prophecies about a savior sent by God to save humanity. They see Jesus's life, death, and resurrection as part of God's plan to restore the relationship between humans and God.Christians believe Jesus is the Messiah, a title meaning "anointed one" in Hebrew, and "Christos" in Greek, which is translated as "Christ" in the New Testament. They believe Jesus fulfilled numerous prophecies about the Messiah in the Old Testament, such as his lineage, birth, ministry, and death. 

Jesus is considered the Son of God, with many Christians believing him to be the second person of the Holy Trinity, both fully divine and fully human.. He  is believed to have come to earth to atone for the sins of humanity through his sacrifice on the cross and his resurrection. Christians believe that through Jesus's sacrifice and resurrection, God offers humans salvation and eternal life. Many Christians believe Jesus will return in the future for a second coming, which is part of their eschatological beliefs  (end times for the earth).  (.A,I. generated information:  Which appears correct to me. I do not agree with the Trinity as discussed elsewhere on this website, but the above is the correct understanding of most Christians),

RELIGION. BELIEF, IS THERE LIKELY TO BE A GOD?

WHY IS THE WORLD NOW DIVIDED INTO 197 NATIONS AND NOT INTO ONE OR TWO EMPIRES ANYMORE ?

IT SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN PROPHESIED/PREDICTED IN DANIEL, A PROPHET IN THE TORAH/TANAKH (OLD TESTAMENT IN THE BIBLE)

TOGETHER WITH A PROPHESY OF THE EVENTUAL PERMANENT " KINGDOM OF GOD" LED BY JESUS CHRIST. AS FOLLOWS:

In the Bible it has God saying he "sets up" and "brings down" nations. I used not take too much notice of this except there is a little noticed story in the Bible that predicted/prophesied (during the Empire of Babylon) about the collapse of "Empires" over 3000 years ago, which I find remarkable. We should all take note of this internationally, including Muslims, Jew, Christians. This seems to be a fulfilled prediction/prophecy found in Daniel (a Prophet) in the Old Testament. This could mean that there may be "truth" in this book and religion when such predictions have come to pass. As follows:

Jeremiah 18: 7-10 At what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to pluck up, and to pull down, and to destroy it; If that nation, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them. And at what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to build and to plant it; If it do evil in my sight, that it obey not my voice, then I will repent of the good, wherewith I said I would benefit them.

Daniel 2: 31 -39, Thou, O king, sawest (in a dream by King Nebuchadnezzar), and behold a great image. This great image, whose brightness was excellent, stood before thee; and the form thereof was terrible. This image's head was of fine gold, his breast and his arms of silver, his belly and his thighs of brass, His legs of iron, his feet part of iron and part of clay. Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them to pieces. Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshing floors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth. This is the dream; and we will tell the interpretation thereof before the king. Thou, O king, art a king of kings: for the God of heaven hath given thee a kingdom, power, and strength, and glory. And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made thee ruler over them all. Thou art this head of gold. And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee, and another third kingdom of brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth.And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise. And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay. And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken. And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay. And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever. Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.

The above is generally interpreted this way by many. It describes a symbolic man with a head of gold, arms and chest of silver, belly and thighs of brass, his legs of iron, and feet part iron part clay, being partly strong and partly weak, but also “they” (the people?) will not mix with each other. It says a stone “not made with hands” strikes the feet and shatters it all i.e. the body of gold, brass, iron and clay is all shattered and blown away in the wind i.e. it no longer exists. The stone that shattered them becomes a symbolic mountain and consumes all kingdoms and covers the whole earth and will stand for ever, i.e. it will not be overcome by another power/king/Government again. It is generally understood that the gold head was the kingdom of Babylon and Nebuchadnezzar its King and the one Empire of the world at that time.. This was in the area now called Iraq. Then the arms and legs of silver are Media and Persia, as the single kingdom of Babylon was afterwards divided into 2 kingdoms. Persia is now modern day Iran, and Media the areas around Iran , i.e. Kurdistan, Azerbaijan. The chest of brass was the Greek Empire, the legs of iron the Roman Empire (Italy) and the iron and miry clay of feet represents the collapse of all Empires and most Kingdoms which has gradually happened just before WW1 and significantly since WW2. There are now 195 nation states in the world and no recognized Empires. The peoples of all nations do not “mingle” (mix)  well due to differences in race and “thinking” as despite the words we often hear repeated “we have more in common than that which divides us” I feel this is not a reliable “truth”. Mankind actually tends to war against each other as individuals and nations for the MASSIVE differences we have in belief, upbringing, religion, politics, in addition to the national wars for land, its materials and/or political power. As Einstein has pointed out, our "thinking" creates the world in which we live, i.e. our thinking is followed by actions and creates the society and differences in each nation and its population. The stone made without hands is symbolically Jesus Christ and his Gospel message which crashed into the legs and feet of the Roman Empire, which was the Empire in power over Israel/Jerusalem  at the time of Jesus Christ’s birth and lifetime. His purpose it seems, is to set up the “Kingdom (Government) of God” that he will then be the Governor/King over all nations, for all time when he returns to rule from Jerusalem with a certain number of resurrected believers, which is explained in detail elsewhere in the Bible, in Revelation in particular. (A illustration of this "man" can be found on www.ACertainMyth.com (oR iS iT tRUE) Page 120).

Jesus Christ also predicted the dispersion of the Jews in 70AD when they were taken captive to Rome (Italy) and until power of the gentiles (non Jews) over Jerusalem is ended. God does not say the Jews are perfect, but he has created that nation and people and  used them to make his presence known in the world and to provide the option to choose life after death. The Jews have suffered greatly for this privilege of originally being Gods chosen people.  However, this option of "life after death" seems to have been brought  by Jesus Christ who also was a Jew, although the Jews have not accepted him as the Messiah, the Son of God, or as a Prophet. They now have to choose or recognize Jesus Christ as the Son of God also, as with the rest of mankind, and we all need to read or hear the words of the New Testament at least, in order to decide  what we believe.  I read the Quran "just in case" there was another Prophet, but the message is not as convincing as being from God or Truth, read them both yourself and you will see, We have 70 years plus to live hopefully, to look into this ourselves,  and also compare what is written, to what has happened in actual proven history  and in  current events/the dally news.

Luke 21: 20-24 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. Then let them which are in Judea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto. For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. (This happened in 70AD and the Jews only returned to the land of Israel in 1948 as agreed by the United Nations, following the Holocaust which many Muslims now deny happened. Since 1948 we may have been near the end of the "time of Gentiles" as the Israelis now control Jerusalem, although the Mosque remains where the Jewish Temple once was before 70AD/CE. It is these words and other verses that the Arab nations and those in Gaza fight for, and wish to deny are true, or that Israel should exist as a nation at all in this land, a peace treaty might be agreed witht a 2 state set up, but the Palestinians/Gazians/Muslims/Hamas will never keep to it, they have already said they will repeat the slaughter of 07.10.23. The holding of hostages is an act of war, 1 Israeli for 100 Palestinian prisoners some of whom are terrorists, sometimes the Israelis received only dead bodies of the hostages, not even returned alive. Hamas could have released all the hostages anytime since October 2023 and ended the war, yet even the BBC did not say this, possibly the BBC have prolonged this war.

The "power of the Gentiles" might be coming to an end due to the fact that the State of Israel has control over Jerusalem now, and due to what is going in Gaza/Palestine , & Israel, Judah(Jews) and Jerusalem, and also the reaction of world nations. The Jews were stateless and hounded and homeless throughout the world since 70AD. They were not allowed to return to the land they were forcibly removed from in 70AD until  the land now called Israel  was  established again in 1948. This was allowed by a United Nations decree following the Holocaust in WW2. Many Arab and Muslim nations deny the Holocaust occurred, and most believe the nation of Israel should not exist, hence the Gaza attacks on Israel on 07.10.23 and a continuing demand for a Palestinian state. This was offered to them in 1948 as a "two state solution" but they refused it at that time and other times after that year I understand. Many Palestinians may  have come from nearby Arab nations over the decades, as it was once in the hands of Jordan, (see below**) and it  was a barren unproductive, sparsely habitated  land. The Palestinians  do not want to share the land due to their ancient biblical and somewhat disputed actual history, but  they want it all. The Palestinians, or rather their Islamic leaders Hamas, and the Arab Muslim community will not uphold any Agreement they make as Hamas  have already said they will eventually invade again with similar attacks against the Jews as on 07.10.23,  However,  a blessing was indeed given to Ishmael, and another blessing was also given to Abraham that he would inherit the land of Israel, and his son Isaac and his descendants  would be part of that inheritance for a special purpose and "covenant", that was later revealed in the New Testament and the Gospels. It was a New Covenant to replace the Old Covenant/Testament that was fulfilled by the life or Jesus Christ. The New Covenant by the Gospels leading to eternal life over death FOR ALL, but we ALL have to make a choice,  to believe it or not. This seems to be the "storyline" of what God has done and the affects this is having on the world. There is an "end time" storyline of what is to come, which looks quite brutal, but then mankind is becoming more brutal and deviant again, as in the times of Noah and the death of all mankind except Noah and his family. Also Sodom and Gomorrah and the death of those cities due to sexual deviation and other issues (Genesis 8). The problem with mankind I think, is that our mind can be filled with words, that lead to our thinking a certain way, that can lead to action and lifestyle that follows our natural human/animal nature that is within. If we read the gospels it opens our mind to our  potential  corrupt nature as humans, and the words, which it seems are spirit, the words we should follow/believe/live by.  ALL religions brainwash their children on  the words and   book their  "God"  says to  follow,  and different actions come from different words, the words in the Quran will always lead to the option of  "slaying" of unbelievers , chastising or scourging of wives,not befreending Jews and Christians and thinking all unbelievers of Islam are without intelligence. This is the command of the book supposedly from  God, can we believe this command could come from God? Even Human Rights should be not be agreement to this surely?

** In another analysis of West Eurasians only, Palestinians fell between Saudis (and more distantly, Bedouins) on one side and Jordanians and Syrians on the other. Admixture analysis in the same study inferred that the Palestinian and Jordanian DNA largely resembled the mixture of Syrians, Lebanese, Druze and Samaritans. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_Palestinians)

The Gaza war is not a war like other wars, it is based on very ancient belief and stories on both sides, and 2 supposed "Holy" books saying different but similar things. Then on top of this, the Prophet of the Quran has stated he is the last Prophet and the Islamic religion the last religion which  will encompass all other religions. We see in Zepheniah 2 : 1-15 provided earlier on this site, that Gods intent is to "famish all the Gods of the earth" because he states he is the only God and these his words in Zephaniah and elsewhere in the bible it would appear.

If anyone wants to make a stand for one side or the other, their opinion will be invalid unless they have read both the Qur'an and Bible front to back, as with any other book. This applies to Jews, Christians, Muslims, Journalists, Academics, MPS, Prime Ministers. In particular Celebrities who may "cast their oar into fray" relying only on soundbite knowledge of the issue and with a desire for personal publicity while inflaming a dangerous issue. It is a war, people die in wars. In  this case,  in a few years to come, people may die en masse in a future moment due to an enforced peace  on Israel   with Gaza to appease terrorist groups,  and by leaders of many nations who are in a form of international "group think" mode.  They may be in  fear of confronting terrorists in case they too are killed perhaps. Those speaking against Israel are not the ones living side by side to those who seek to kill them as brutally as on 07.10.23. As written in the Bible Old Testament  (Torah/Tanakh), the next or final battle over the land of Israel  may be after an enforced peace imposed on the Jews, fails. If that does happen, the end story according to the God of the Bible and Abraham is that God will be supporting the Israelis, not because they are any better than the rest of us (although God did give them many talents, hence perhaps the reason they have more Nobel prizes than most nationalities), but because since Exodus, or even before that, God has made a spectacle of them in the world over the  centuries, as related in the Bible. This might be in order  that the world of Gentiles (non Jews) might see and believe that the God of Abraham does exist, and that we can be "saved" from the apparent disaster predicted, and can receive "everlasting life" after death by choice,  as per the Gospel of Jesus Christ. We do all have to make our own choice on this issue of belief, because the world is being enveloped again by violence and discord of a different kind to WW2, but a great danger nevertheless. The Bible and many religions seem too fantastical, and not many will believe any religion nowadays,  perhaps with good reason, but religions are specific to a nation quite often, meaning most are man made. ideas. Yet with all our science and technology we still do not understand who and why we are here, the Bible may give insight into this, which is why the 3 major religions of the world, Jews, Christians, Muslims, all rely on it, although the two latter religions have changed that first message given to the Jews.

There is a  lack of knowledge in the world about the words in the  Bible, and the errors promoted by its Leaders in most churches on the Gospel message. This may  mean the Christian message is being misunderstood and has lost its power. We have to review these "words" in the Bible again ourselves, not through preachers only, who may unwittingly be leading us astray with the trinity teaching. Also , knowing that some of these strange ancient predictions  have already been fulfilled, indicates the ones yet to come may yet be fulfilled also. We should take note.

ISAIAH 59

(A symbolic prediction/prophesy in the Old Testament (Torah/Tanakh) of the arrival of Jesus Christ )

Behold, the LORD'S hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear: But your iniquities (crookedness/perverseness) have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear. For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity; your lips have spoken lies, your tongue hath muttered perverseness. None calleth for justice, nor any pleadeth for truth: they trust in vanity, and speak lies; they conceive mischief, and bring forth iniquity. They hatch cockatrice' eggs, and weave the spider's web: he that eateth of their eggs dieth, and that which is crushed breaketh out into a viper.Their webs shall not become garments, neither shall they cover themselves with their works: their works are works of iniquity, and the act of violence is in their hands. Their feet run to evil, and they make haste to shed innocent blood: their thoughts are thoughts of iniquity; wasting and destruction are in their paths. The way of peace they know not; and there is no judgment in their goings: they have made them crooked paths: whosoever goeth therein shall not know peace.Therefore is judgment far from us, neither doth justice overtake us: we wait for light, but behold obscurity; for brightness, but we walk in darkness. We grope for the wall like the blind, and we grope as if we had no eyes: we stumble at noonday as in the night; we are in desolate places as dead men. We roar all like bears, and mourn sore like doves: we look for judgment, but there is none; for salvation, but it is far off from us. For our transgressions are multiplied before thee, and our sins testify against us: for our transgressions are with us; and as for our iniquities, we know them; In transgressing and lying against the LORD, and departing away from our God, speaking oppression and revolt, conceiving and uttering from the heart words of falsehood. And judgment is turned away backward, and justice standeth afar off: for truth is fallen in the street, and equity cannot enter. Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the LORD saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment. And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his arm (symbolic for Jesus Christ) brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him. For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloke. According to their deeds, accordingly he will repay, fury to his adversaries, recompence to his enemies; to the islands he will repay recompence. So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him. And the Redeemer (Jesus Christ) shall come to Zion (Israel), and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the LORD. As for me, this is my covenant (New Testament) with them, saith the LORD; My spirit that is upon thee (Jesus Christ) and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed (those that believe the Gospel Jesus spoke, which were Gods words not his) nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the LORD, from henceforth and for ever.

WHAT SHALL WE DO IN THE MEANTIME WHILE WE WAIT FOR SUCH A DISCUSSION/CHANGES ON THESE MATTERS?

Immigrants  think perhaps, that everyone receives a free council property and welfare payments  when in a rich nation, we do not,  we are not rich, we are near bankruptcy and disaster, even our pensions may not be paid by 2035. The Government currently  play   games with  minor/major welfare cuts and tax increases,  yet not stemming the massive  flow of  legal and illegal immigrants that are causing the bankruptcy. It is a foolishness beyond words, we are a bucket  of water with a  large hole in it,  billions lost on immigrant  needs, legal aid, translation services, while  the Government  scrape the barrel for tax from  the poorest  UK residents, the small business owners, even rich residents should not be expected to pay huge taxes when there is a  "hole in the bucket" of our economy,  wasted on people who have forced their way into the nation. Certainly Farms should not be paying inheritance tax, it will decimate the farming industry and any possibility food supply  independence, as will increased use of green belt land for housing estates  only to house millions of immigrants while our own people remain homeless.  Kent has already lost massive areas of farming land between Ashford and Folkestone. Democracies cannot work to absorb the worlds poor, its impossible.  Even Reform UK  is backtracking on deportation policy, and  has appointed  a  Muslim Chairman  unknown to any or us  and out of the blue without any political experience,   possibly as Leader of Reform/ Prime Minster at some  point Farage  has said.  Yet as a Muslim, though apparently supportive of British values, by default he will believe in the verses from the Quran listed above earlier on this website. How does this Reform  Chairman cope with this dilemma, as Muslims aim for a control of  Governments to change each  nation to an Islamic state with Sharia law?  Perhaps a BBC journalist  or Jordon Peterson/Douglas Murray/Winston Marshall/GBNews/the Culture Forum could interview him respectfully and constructively on  this matter. As we can be sure  that with these verses above from the Quran and protected by Human Rights and the "protected characteristics" of DEI and 2010 Equality Act, neither the UK, nor the world will be able to overcome domestic violence or terrorism. Will the Reform Chairmen himself be in danger if he rejects the Islamic faith should he so decide, and the potential dangers from this for him in such prominent position?  Nor do we want the Reform Party set up as business with 50%/50% share between  2 persons, who ever they may be, as at a later stage the company could be bought our and taken over.

John 4: 24- 23 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit  and in truth

Take Control of Your  Nation and Avoid Multiple Conflicting Cultures.

Instead of Woke, Religion, BLM, Human Rights and DEI

we can voluntarily choose to live

by the following universal

"Common Courtesy Culture".

THE COMMON COURTESY CULTURE - WORLDWIDE.

Rights With Responsibility.

Play Your Positive Part In Life.

Please. Sorry. Thank you. Queue.

Smile. Live & Let Live. Forgive.

Be Polite, Even In Anger.

Agree to Disagree. Do Not Impose.

Submit to the Police.

Do Not Be Kind To Crime. 

Clever Or Not, Be Humble.

Be Grateful.

Every Life Matters.

Harm no one.

Even if they harm you.

WHAT UNITES?.

*To be Free 

*To be happy.

*To be well.

*To have food, water, shelter, companionship.

*To have peace of mind 

*To have peace in the world.

*To have power over our own lives.

*To have work we enjoy.

*To have a goal that motivates us.

*To have a family. To belong.

WHAT DIVIDES?

Religion divides Us.

Political beliefs divide us

Language divides us.

Laws divide us.

Education and Knowledge or lack of it divides us.

Money and lack of it divides us.

Culture divides us.

Skin colour divides us

Not being able to speak freely divides us.

Our "thinking" affected by of all the above, and is the ultimate division.

WHAT HINDERS PROGRESS ? 

*Human Nature and Emotions

*Some want power over others 

Power for their own benefit, or for their group/race/culture

*Some do not care, as long as they are OK.

*Some tell lies, or manipulate to maintain power over others, 

 to stay in high office, a job or position, or to retain influence.

* Not obeying the rules/laws, or bringing in their own laws to oppress.

To Falsely Use Race, Poverty, Mental Health, Disability As A Means To Oppress & Make Gains 

 Asylum and Conflictive  Human Rights.

Toxic Significant Celebrities/Leaders using influence to destroy  other nations/groups.

WHAT PROMOTES PROGRESS?

*Critical thinking on every issue, i.e. looking impartially at both sides of an issue.

*Live and Let Live. Forgive.

*Not getting angry/rude if someone disagrees with you.

*Keep quiet, walk away. a  lost temper is a lost argument.

*Free speech that allows dissent and discussion without rancour.

*We do not have to be right, we can "agree to disagree"

*Obey the great and small laws that keep society at peace .i.e.

Do not steal, murder, leave litter or dog fouling, play loud music in communal or

public places like parks, streets, trains, tubes, or communal gardens.

*We MUST be free  to ask "where are you from" and not be told it is racist to do so,

 it is a simple "getting to know you" inquiry in any society, a chance to hear about your culture,

(that you say you want others to recognize and value), or just your life experience, to hear about its problems and benefits.

 Whether we  are African, European, or any other heritage, to ask society to suppress this simple inquiry, is an oppression of the soul. 

*We are all racist, because we are different races, and differ in our thinking. beliefs, behaviour. 

To call someone racist  is  revealing the racism in ourselves,  it is  a normal response and feeling in us

all in  a multicultural society when we all do things which is  related to our own  culture, but others may not like.

 If we want to feel at home within the society we are in, then we  can  only return to our

place of origin, but we cannot expect a nation to changes ITS culture and laws until they are usurped by yours,

 i.e.  overcome by force/riot/threat.  It is incumbent on immigrants to  adapt to the host culture they

have chosen to join,  not that the host nation must adapt to the immigrant by oppression.

Life and people are not perfect. We live to Learn.

Forgive and move on, be the salt of the earth, spread goodwill.

None of us have a "right" to be offended and call the Police.

We are not children anymore.

We  all offend,  and are  offended, multiple times a day.

Often unintentionally and unwittingly.

Its life.

WHAT LIFE AFTER DEATH AND THE RETURN OF CHRIST MIGHT MEAN

AS INDICATED IN THE BIBLE/THE QURAN DOES NOT PROVIDE SUCH DETAIL

THE HADITH MAY DO BUT ARE NOT PART OF THE CLAIMED INSPIRED WORDS IN THE QURAN,

 BUT LET THE IMAMS COME FORWARD TO TELL US WITH SCRIPTURE THEIR BELIEF OF THE END TIMES.

It seems Jesus on his return, will be assisted by those who have believed his message since his death and resurrection.  They will become part of the “first resurrection” when God by his Spirit in Jesus Christ and those who believed his message he will raise them from death to eternal life (as he has himself has been raised 3 days after  the crucifixion ) when he himself returns to the world to rule the nations from Jerusalem. This first resurrection will include both Jews (only those who have also accepted the Gospel message of  Jesus  being the Son of God) and the Gentiles (non Jews) that believed in the gospel during their lifetime. They will rule for a 1000 years with Jesus Christ, at the end of which there will be one final battle against Jesus and those of the first resurrection, also called his “saints”.  The battle will be with those who are alive and who still disbelieve and reject the rule of God and Jesus, amazingly. It seems to be an interim period before the final end  of this earth,  or the full renewal of it. These "Saints" that come with Jesus are those who believed in the Gospel, but are not necessarily those ordained by the Catholic Church, which is a “Sainthood” created by man and not reliable. We can only assume by the words used in the Bible that there will be those still living during this 1000 years, some still being born even after Jesus has returned with those in the first resurrection. However, before the return of Jesus, there seems be a great trouble and destruction of many people. This seems to be triggered by a battle with Israel and all/many nations coming against Israel. We should not discount this war with Gaza as  coincidence perhaps.

After reading the Bible in full, Israel seems to be a people created by God to show his power and presence in the world in order that we believe in the one God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob* (*Jacob who was renamed Israel by God), which is still a work in progress as outlined in the Bible.  Following this last battle mentioned above, there is a resurrection and judgement of ALL those that have ever lived from Adam and Eve until the present day, but this time some will be given everlasting life and some given everlasting death depending on their works/actions in their lifetime. It is uncertain how this everlasting death (my words) will be experienced, the bible calls it hell, which could just be a place of final destruction/death. Read the Bible or New Testament at least and make your own judgement. After this period of judgement resulting in everlasting life for some, or a second death of others, there is a new or renewed heaven and earth where Jesus rules on equal basis with all people now living, as all have submitted and acknowledged God and have his spirit IN them, as Jesus has received God's Spirit IN him also from the moment he was baptized. In this manner God “dwells with us” and is also IN Jesus, who is the only representation of God to mankind at any time, now or in the future. However, Jesus is NOT God, he is the Son of God and the Son of Man, having been conceived by God’s power and by Mary who is of mankind. The Holy Ghost/Spirit IS Gods spirit now living IN  us and IN Jesus when we read or hear the words of Jesus in the Bible. There is NO trinity of persons, it is just God who is an invisible Spirit with all power, and Jesus his miraculously conceived Son by his spirit of power and  to whom he has passed all authority and power by his Spirit, now living IN Jesus which he received when baptized, as we do when we believe. The plan of God was that Jesus has been anointed with God's Spirit, and to those who believe that he is the Son of God who  was then crucified for our sins/errors. He was resurrected to show the "way" that God dwells in those that believe and will raise us from death by his Spirit now in us when we believe in the words and Gospel of Jesus in the New Testament. Yet the first resurrection of believers that come with Jesus when he returns, or if they are  living at the time, they will be “changed” at that moment to join those who return and have been resurrected from death . Being part of the first resurrection looks more to be about being part of the “kingdom” or "Government" of God, Jesus being the King/Governor on equal basis with those who rule and come with him on his return. This would seem to be with  those who remain alive after the great battle of nations that will have occurred, and triggered by a war with Israel as is predicted/prophesied below. After the 1000 year rule there is another short battle with those of mankind who are against/reject Jesus and God and those ruling with him from Jerusalem. It seems rather far fetched, yet rather impressively detailed, something that could make sense if we are hoping for the miraculous  "life after death"  and that has a realistic logical detailed plan of the process and its future.. We should at least be aware of these words...just in case...and make our own decision, Muslims , Jews, all mankind also.

However during the 1000 years , Jesus and those resurrected with him,  rule with the power and Spirit of God in them and by the word spoken, which it seems will carry power to punish from afar and to reprimand physically from afar those that continue to seek power by aggression.   Revelation 2: 26 -27 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father. Revelation 19: 13-16  And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS..  (The sword is symbolic for the "word").

If after reading this Website and looking at www.ACertainMyth.com.

If you think/believe there is a possibility there is a God based on the Jewish Torah/Tanakh

and the Gospel of Jesus Christ that does NOT promote the interpretation of the Trinity, OR,

that Jesus is God as well as the Son,

Then we can also do the following

We can choose to live by the "Culture of Christ" 

As described in the New Testament of the Bible, he does not ask us to slay anyone,

and are free to leave or believe with fear.

 We are not obliged to go to war in order to obtain "eternal life", 

rather the opposite.

Do Not Die For A Lie.

Whether we believe in something, or nothing, it matters what we read and believe.

Whether immigrant or not, we all want life after death that is not just a vague hope.

It affects our actions in day to day life, and whether we do obtain life after death or not.

If.... there is such a option, which there may well be.

THE 2010 CREED OF GOD

God is not 3, Triune nor Trinity,

God is One and Jesus Christ

His only BORN  Son.

Anointed Appointed

by God.

The King of Glory.

Emmanuel

“God with us”.

The image of the invisible God.

For make no mistake,

we will die in our sin,

without Him.

For God was IN Christ

restoring

the world to Himself.

For God is a Spirit,

and Spirit is Words,

and God was IN Christ,

speaking HIS Word.

God’s Spirit,

the Lord of Hosts

the Holy Ghost.

Now dwelling IN ALL,

that believe in the Son,

For THEN

He has won.

And let all the earth know,

before it’s too late.

**That THIS is life eternal,

that they might know thee

the only true God,

and Jesus Christ,

whom thou hast sent.

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BIBLE: **John 17:3 John 1: 1-18/ Isaiah 7:14 / Isaiah 9:6-7/ Mathew 1:23/Luke 1:26-38/Colossians 1:15/Psalm 24 /John 8:21-24/2 Corinthians 5:17-21/John 6:63, 4:24/ John 12:44-5/Isaiah 42;1-4/Luke 4:16-21/Mathew 3:11-17/Acts 2:1-21,8:15-17/Isaiah 45:22/John 18: 28-38/Acts 3:18-26/Hebrews 1 Hebrews 3/John 13:1-17, 13:34-35, 20:17/John 17:1-3 / John Chapters 14, 15,16,17. QUR’AN: Surah 3:45-50/ Surah 2: 87/Surah 3:84/Surah 5:72-73/Surah 3:55 /*Surah 4:136/*Surah 4:150-152(*Scripture from “aforetime” mentioned in the Quran is the writings of the Bible/Torah/tTanakh. The Qur’an says to “make no distinction between the Prophets” i.e. that we should read all of them, including those from “aforetime” i.e. those in the Bible which includes Jesus and the 20 or so Jewish Prophets in the Old Testament which are the “scriptures from aforetime” as is the The New Testament in the Bible.

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A CERTAIN RIDDLE ABOUT A TREE

(Based on Genesis Chapters 1 to 3)

In answer to... Surah 2:23 ..The Missing Link..Surah 115: 1-18

"And if you are in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto our slave (Mohammed),

them produce a surah (verse/chapter)or the like thereof, and call your witnesses beside Allah if ye are truthful"

Surah 115: 1-18   

Let the Media call  the witnesses of Islam, Christianity and Jews and secular theologians

and popular "thinkers" to discuss the "Truth" as allowed by Surah 2:23 above

and of the errors of Christian teaching mentioned on this website.

We will tell you a Certain Story

For it is surely very Certain.

We will tell you in a verse

For it is better that it serves.

You heard about this story

From a Book so very old.

You read it many times

Yet perhaps  the trail is cold.

It seemed there was a Spirit

Full of Power Love and Writ.

The Spirit spoke a Word

And the Word, it always stirred.

The World was then created

The Stars the Moon the Sun.

Suddenly mankind rose up

To kiss the God who won.

Then Mankind was in the Garden

And all things were at One.

The God he wanted friendship

But Man he seemed  to….. trip.

The Man he ate the Apple

A simple thing you see.

But you have to look far deeper

In this Word that is the Tree.

The Apple of the Knowledge

That was God’s alone to bear.

The Apple of the Life

He surely would not dare.

For if you may not know

The Tree of Life was there.

That you may live forever

If only you would care.

But Man he always murders

Turns to hate and power.

Forgets about the God

And  all things then turn sour.

So Mankind now stripped naked

No God to cover sin.

He sought to live without Him

Man thought that he could win.

But always death prevailed

His lifetime three score ten.

His Knowledge though increased

The fruit of Life curtailed.

Now why is this you wonder

As you read and read this Book.

That God had left aside for you

Perchance that you may look.

The Tree of Life it had a Sword

Protection blazing every way.

No man could ever touch its fruit

For God,  he had to Say.

And this the Word God said

My Word I made My Son.

In Him you must believe

For  surely he has won.

My Son I give my Power

Knowledge, Wisdom, Life.

In him is all you need

He is my only Seed.

I made him God and King

For “I AM” the one in Him.

In him is all you heard

My Spirit  is as his Word.

The Blazing Sword around the Tree

Is entered through the Word.

The Sword itself it is the Word

I trust that you will see.

The Sword itself it is the Word

The Tree of Life its fruit.

My Son, if you will only hear

Will lead you to the Truth.